Tuesday, June 02, 2009

Kill Gitmo Detainees

While Cheney doesn’t actually advocate lining up all the terrorist detainees at Gitmo and machine gunning them down, he says it is the only alternative to keeping them incarcerated until at least the end of the war with Islam.

By de Andréa

Former Vice President Dick Cheney said Monday that the only alternative to holding suspected terrorists indefinitely would be to execute them, arguing against the Obama administration's plans to close the Guantanamo detainee prison and releasing the prisoners. "If you're going to be engaged in a world conflict such as we are, such as the global war on terrorism, if you don't have a place where you can hold these people, your only other option is to kill them," Mr. Cheney said. "And we don't operate that way."

The former vice president's statements only raise the stakes in fierce debate with his critics, who believe Mr. Cheney presided over the formulation of interrogation techniques that they regard as torture and remains unapologetic for approving water-boarding and other harsh methods used.

Mr. Cheney bases his argument on the view that suspected terrorists should be considered prisoners of war and as such, "ought to be held until the end of the conflict”.

He also criticized the Obama administration for failing to think through its plans to scuttle Guantanamo.

"Obama made a mistake, issuing an order that he wants it closed within a year, but didn't have a clue as to how to proceed," Mr. Cheney said. "And now they're having trouble because they have to come up with a plan of some kind."

The former vice president said that the Guantanamo Bay prison is "a fine facility" and that the White House will have a "very difficult" time closing it, because of the legal, political, and diplomatic challenges associated with indefinite detention.

Mr. Obama has indicated that even after the Guantanamo closure, the government will still have to hold some detainees in prolonged detention. Obama has also restarted the military commission’s process to try some detainees there, instead of in civilian courts, following the Bush policy.

In arguing for the continued use of Guantanamo, Mr. Cheney cited recent press reports that said the majority of the more than 500 prisoners released from Guantanamo have or will return in some capacity to what he called that jihad business.

Mr. Obama's decision to close Guantanamo, however, was of course praised by Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu during a visit to Washington.

But on the domestic political front, one of the leading contenders for the Republican nomination to run against Mr. Obama in 2012, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney took aim at the president's foreign policy and defense budget cuts.

Mr. Romney characterized Mr. Obama's last two trips abroad as a tour of apology and criticized signs from the White House that they might back off a missile defense system in Eastern Europe. "Arrogant, delusional tyrants can't be stopped by earnest words and furrowed brows," Mr. Romney said. "Action, strong bold action coming from a position of strength and determination, is the only effective deterrent."

North Korea and Iran were two of the topics that Mr. Cheney admitted the Bush administration did fall short on. We didn't bat 1,000. No question about it. And Iran and North Korea are still out there, Mr. Cheney said in response to a question about the growth of nuclear programs in both regimes during the eight years that Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney were in office. I wish we could have done more, but those are problems that are passed on to the next administration.

THE BOTTOM LINE: Reminiscent of General Pershing in the Philippines who understood the Muslim mind, lining them up, and gunning them down, is the only real deterrent to Islamic Jihad in the West.

The Sunni Wahhabist Muslim mind understands nothing except violence, whether it is violence against you, or violence against them. Benevolence is weakness and justice is blind, in the literal sense.

The Western mind is grossly deceived because of our benevolent fair-minded culture. This is what Western Europe struggled with between 800 and 1100 AD. For 300 years Western Europe mistakenly thought they could eventually redirect the Muslim culture to align with their own.

The U.S. has actually been at war with Islam for more than 200 years. Since 1783 our trade ships were pirated in the Mediterranean. The first American war with Islam was the Barbary War (1801–1805), also known as the Barbary Coast War or the war of Tripoli, it was the first war fought between the United States and the Nation of Islam

The Western Europeans had learned something in the three hundred years of Muslim infiltration that may take another 74 years for the modern Western culture to discover. And that is that Islam will never assimilate into another culture. You my friend will assimilate into theirs.

This is why the Crusades of 11th century are now considered so brutal against Islam. They understood something we don’t yet understand, the only way to stop a brutal nation bent on your total destruction is to destroy the brutal Nation. This is why fire fighters sometimes start a fire at the edge of town in order to stop an oncoming fire from consuming the town. We must fight brutality with brutality. It is truly the only thing Islam understands.

For 226 years Islam has been attacking America, and they will not stop, unless they are stopped.

The Nation of Islam is not compatible with any other culture on the planet. This is because they believe that they are the only culture on the planet. All others must be destroyed or absorbed into the Muslim culture.

Will it take the West another 74 years to recognize this?

V.P. Dick Cheney may not know how right he is: "If you're going to be engaged in a world conflict such as we are, such as the global war on terrorism, if you don't have a place where you can hold these people, your only other option is to kill them…"

The fact that --- “…we don't operate that way,” just may lead to our demise…

de Andréa

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